Re: New service: Searchable Jag-Lovers archives on the Web

[gljohn3@searle.monsanto.com]

     Gunnar, you deserve special honorable status for your work.  I have 
     used the "Search the old archives" section a couple of times and it 
     works very smoothly; better than most of the archives on the net these 
     days.  It feels great to know the old material is still available to 
     me, a recent list member.
     
     One comment:  I did notice my queries would retrieve some messages, 
     but maybe not all.  FE if you query "ignition AND xke OR E-Type" it 
     seemed to me that I got replies to a message but not the original 
     question.  Could be my misunderstanding?
     
     Thanks again,
     Gordon Johnson


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Subject: New service: Searchable Jag-Lovers archives on the Web
Author:  Gunnar Helliesen <gunnar@bitcon.no> at Internet
Date:    2/9/97 12:08 PM


Fellow Jag-Lovers,
     
At the request of Nick, our list admin, I have accepted the task of 
creating a searchable (and browseable) Jag-Lovers archive on the World 
Wide Web.
     
After a lot of work (and little sleep) I now feel the service is ready 
for use. It works like this:
     
On the main menu there are three choices. "Search the old archives" 
takes you to a search form where you can enter a query to search all 
postings from November 1993 to December 1996.
     
"Search new archives" takes you to another form where you can enter a 
query to search all postings from the beginning of February 1997 and 
onwards.
     
"Browse new archives" takes you to a menu where you can browse all 
postings from the beginning of February and onwards. You can list the 
postings by date or by thread (subject).
     
These Web pages are not a substitute for subscribing to the Jag-Lovers 
mailing list and are of course only available for reading (posting is 
not possible).
     
To have a look at the searchable archives, open your WWW browser to: 
http://www.bitcon.no/jaglovers/
     
Technical details:
     
The reason for splitting the search of the old and the new archives is 
simply that the old archives are only available as large digest files. 
The program I use for indexing the email messages and converting them to 
HTML (MHonArc) only understands standard Unix mailbox files and refuses 
to index the digests. To make matters worse, the oldest archives (pre 
March '95) are only available without proper email headers and are 
almost impossible to index with any program without heavy editing. I 
finally managed to index them with freeWAIS-sf but I'm working on a 
better solution. Anyone who has saved *all* messages from the past (or 
for a lengthy period of time) *with all headers*, please get in touch 
with me! Note: Don't just send me your entire collection, get in touch 
first!
     
All messages from now on (and from the beginning of February, I had kept 
those myself) are automatically converted to HTML and made available for 
browsing. I have also installed a program that indexes Web pages and 
makes them available for searching (ht://Dig). This program will run 
daily indexing all postings from now on.
     
I'm not quite finished with the pages yet, I have still to write proper 
help pages for the different search query syntaxes, but I'll get around 
to this as soon as I get some sleep ;-)
     
Enjoy and let me know what you think!
     
Gunnar
     
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Systems Consultant | Bergen, Norway        | '86 Jaguar Sovereign 4.2 
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