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Washer Bottles and Pickle Jars

Hi to all I am currently assembling my 140 from a body off restoration and one area where I have incomplete information is on the tubes for the windscreen washing system. When I stripped the car down there was very little left of the system, so my notes on where things go are very poor. I will attempt to describe what I think is correct and would appreciate it if anyone in the know will correct me as required. All of the "lefts" or "rights" in what follows is from a position in front of the car looking into the engine compartment, looking towards the rear of the car.

A vacuum tube should run from the inlet manefold through a hole in the firewall which is the first hole to the left of the cab heater box and above the hole for the speedometer cable. This tube goes to the button on the dash. I am not sure if this tube should be held by any clips to the shelf between the manefold and the firewall, or should it be pulled tight so that it does not rest on the shelf.

From the dash button a tube should run through the hole in the firewall immediately to the right of the voltage regulator to the vac bottle. Again, any information on how and where this tube is secured to the car after it comes out of the firewall would be appreciated.

From the bottle, the water carrying tube goes back along the same path as tube above through same hole next to voltage regulator to splitter box under dash and to then to the spray nozzles. I have same questions as above about securing tubes.

All pictures I have seen show the bottle on the right hand side of engine compartment, is this true for all models. I ask this question because if I have identified the correct holes in firewall for various tubes, it would have made more sense for the Jag designers to have put it on the left side, or to have used other more appropriate holes in the firewall. Whoever volunteers to help me sort this out is getting themselves into a larger than normal job. I do appreciate the help I have got from this group.

If anyone has pictures of his car which shows the details I am looking for, I would return them after having a good look at them and pay for the postage to get them to me. - Neville Laing

Neville, I looked into Porters Original Jaguar XK Page 63. According to that photo, the bottle looks square, identical to the XK 120 one, which is 5" square glass. My bottle came off a Jaguar Mk 7. It is a round glas, with a similar vacuum top like the p.63 photo shows. My bottle comes with the correct holder and bracket, but I fear it is just original for the MK 7.

The XK 120 holder for the square (5") bottle is made of 2" wide flat steel. It is bent like a U, the legs go 5" up. It is supposed to clamp a 5" square bottle with the help of a 7/16th" surrounding perimeter on top. For the XK 120, it uses a 90 degree bracket to be attached to the upper scuttle. For that purpose, the holder needs a 5/8" spacer pipe, on the lower edge, to attach it to the splash wall of scuttle. All that little add ons are there, i.e., bracket, spacer, nuts and bolts, and last not least the holder itself. But, sorry, no square bottle.

I have two of such original XK 120 windshield washer bottle holders. According to Trico that holding deivice was for a "6oz. bottle XAW-30" - Arno Wahl

To all What does this assembly look like for a 140FHC. I have a chance to buy one labelled TRICO. The glass is nearly round eg corners are rounded severely and the iron works has thin about 5/16 wide horizontal hoops attached to a wider vertical piece which also wraps around the bottom of the glass. It has the normal round vacuum attachements on top. Is this a FHC part? Klaus Nielsen

I believe you have a correct washer bottle holder and an incorrect bottle. My bottle is almost square.

My bottle also does not have TRICO molded into the glass. Does anyone have an opinion on whether this means the bottle is not correct?

Another thing. I can't believe that TRICO made 3000 bottles just for 140 coupes. Does anyone know any other make or model car that uses this bottle?

- Chris Jerbic

Were all XK120 washer bottles square? Were later cars not fitted with round bottles? I ask the question because I have photographs of supposedly concours cars with round bottles - also I went ahead and bought a round bottle for my car on this basis. - Nick Saltarelli 1954 XK120SE OTS 1968 E-type OTS

I have not followed this thread in detail, but I record 3 types of washer bottle / reservoir:

Jar (glass): C 5473/2 (X.78369): XK120: all XK140: RS and DHC Jar (glass): C 9184 (800037): XK140: FHC only Jar (glass): C 10127/2 XK150: all (round - see Plate 78, page 1/423) Your can see that there is a difference between the 140 models. I thought they were all round (the 150 certainly was), but that's no more than an impression, maybe induced by the round bottle on my 150 ... !

A message re the operation of the washers from last year: Operation: Per Jag Lovers list message, 3 Jul 96: pushing the button conects vacuum to the washer mechanism. It pulls a diaphragm in the dome on the inside of the washer fixed to the lid on the bottle. On the other side of the diaphragm, water is drawn from the bottle. When you release the button, atmospheric pressure is allowed on the vacuum side of the diaphragm and the spring action of it (and maybe an auxiliary spring?) pushes the water drawn beforehand to the washer jets. So the water sprays only after you release the button. (Frans Hoehemeijer, Switzerland). - John Elmgreen

John, The idea of looking in the handbook was good, but it doesn't work for the 140. The only picture that comes close (page 20) shows only a sliver of the top of the bottle, with the rest obscured by the fender edge.

My early (1958) handbook for the 150 is more helpful. It clearly shows a round bottle in a square holder. I'm not sure if there were any changes to this in later editions.

Hope this helps, Jon Schrock 57 XK140 FHC

Neville, Arno, etc: Did you sort out the windscreen washer problems? This is what the parts books say, and they indicate a difference for the 140 FHC but not as many other differences as the discussion reflected. Is this an area where there are really undocumented differences, or just lots of non-original cars out there? Was the extra bulb on the top of the bottle lid fitted to XKs (like on page 63 of Porter)? The parts books would indicate they were not (just the flat type, same for all 120 and all 140). Square bottles were fitted to Mk II.

Jar (glass): C 5473/2 (X.78369): XK120: all XK140: RS and DHC C 9184 (800037): XK140: FHC only C 10127/2 XK150: all (round - see Plate 78, page 1/423) Pump and cover: C 5473/3 (X.82540) XK120: all XK140: all C 10127/3 XK150: all Bracket and strap assembly: C5473/8 (X.78364.1E) XK120: all XK140: OTS, DHC. C 9185 (X.800075/E) XK140: FHC only C 10127/5 XK150: all - John Elmgreen

Could someone clear the air on this one. On pp 69 in the most recent issue of "Jaguar Enthusiasts" it states that only FHCs were equipped with square bottles and the rest came with round bottles. As I have just found a complete original "round" set the answer could be important. Thanks...all - Klaus Nielsen 140FHC

Klaus - you are looking at buying NOS washer bottle - it might well come in a box with a part no. - let us know if you can check it. Neville Laing: one photo I have of an unconverted LHD OTS shows the bottle on the right side of the engine bay (i.e. the inlet side). I assumed that this was because the master cylinders needed to go on the left (exhaust) side for a LHD car, and the opposite was the case with RHD (which is what is in Porter). Let me know if there is any sign on the inlet side. For sure the LHD and RHD were in different positions, as the tube lengths were different. John Schrock: the "sliver" of a picture you can see in the handbook: does it show the flat top bottle i.e. not the one with the separate bulb on top? Is the car a FHC or OTS/DHC?

For the 150, there are no problems (or are there?) as there was only one type and it is shown in the parts book. Round bottle, squarish frame. - John Elmgreen

John & all xk140 washer bottle lovers, My owners manual shows the round bottle with vacuum pump on top, located on the right (intake) side fairly close to the firewall. Car is a FHC. - Jon Heber

Just a small comment, but I find it somewhat amazing that with something like 135+ XK owners in this group, we cannot after several days resolve what you would think is a pretty simple question about the right windscreen washer bottle for different model XK140s. Of course, I don't have the definitive answer either! Just shows that there are some areas about these cars that are not easy to resolve for sure without a fair bit of effort.

Robert Oates - Robert, if I understood you correctly, you were referring to this sort of exercise (trying to work out what was original) as just a "data collecting exercise". I couldn't agree more. What else could it be? Better to collect "data" (to the extent you can find it) than to rely on intuition, even the intuition of experienced XK enthusiasts such as those Phil Porter assembled for his first Original Jaguar XK book, where all agree that so many errors were made.

So, why is all this important? In my opinion, there can only be one answer: it isn't! But some of us get some fun out of it ... One question for Robert - you asked "wlll it sell in Perioa?" - I guess this is the US salesman's test for the marketability of a product (BTW, where IS Perioa?!). Assuming I finish my efforts, I do not think the book will sell well anywhere, and Perioa will not be a concern! I would doubt that it'd be worth producing more than say 1000 copies (Porter sold 20,000 of his book - but they are cheap at 20 pounds each only - say $50). I believe that Urs Schmidt in Switzerland is getting on with his project too, and from what I know and hear, that will be the best XK originality material ever produced. Regards, John Elmgreen

For what it's worth my XK140 OTS washer bottle is round. I'm pretty sure it's original. The holder is square'ish and should have rubber wrapping around the upper band that holds the bottle and maybe a rubber pad at the bottom(?). The rubber has long since disappeared on mine, so I'm looking for a way to authentically replicate it. - Mike Carpenter

I suspect there was an undocumented update during XK140 production, which may have some element of excuse in being an 'Optional Extra' fitment, rather than being 'Standard'. Early XK140 ots/dhc photos in contemporary magazine articles show a round bottle, with the vacuum bulb on top of the lid. I have however seen a number of later XK140 ots/dhc, that appear to be original fitment, with round bottle with flat lid. I've nothing to support original fitment of square Mark 2 type bottles in XK's, and presume p63 of Porters to show a replacement ring-in! The only markings on my late 1955 XK140 ots (I think) original round 4-3/4" diameter x 8-1/2" high bottle are: an 'A' within a larger outline of an 'A' LOGO over the number '5651' over the number '9' moulded into the outside bottom of the jar.

This distinctive LOGO is also on the bottom of a Mark 2 square Jar I have, with different moulding number.

I must admit to being equally interested in whether metal lid assembly is type with vacuum bulb on top, or flat lid type.

Unfortunately my research notes have nothing good on XK140 fhc. - Roger Payne

John There is a single hole in the right side wall of the engine compartment about 3 inches forward of the larger hole for main wiring harness from rear of car. If the water bottle was secured by a single bolt this is certainly a posssible location. There is a matching hole on the left side of the car, but the hood (bonnet) prop rubber securing bracket is right above it. The only way this hole could be a candidate for securing the water bottle was if there was a spacer which would hold the bottle away from the side wall so it cleared the hood prop bracket. Any more comments or clues would be appreciated. I think I did say in a previous posting that the scraps of tubing left when I stripped the car down had the tube from the dash button to the bottle and the water supply from the bottle to the nozzles passing thru the hole in the firewall immediately to the right of the voltage regulator. This, on a left hand drive car, is very close to the right hand edge of the firewall. I cannot immagine the designers at Jag bringing these tubes out from under the dash at this point only to have to run the tubes all away across to the left hand side on the shelf somewhere. It would have made more sense to get from right side of car to left side under the dash and then bring the tubes out of one of the holes used for windscreen wipers.

I think I am looking for a water bottle which is secured by a single bolt and I believe I have persuaded myself it must go on the right handside of the car. - Neville Laing

For what it is worth, a nicely restored XK140 (1957) on pg 67 in "Practical Classics and Car Restorer - on XK Jaguar Restoration" shows a square bottle in a square braket. - Tony Clarke

Given Davids comments below, one might guess that original bottles in general may have had a rather short lifetime on average and would frequently have been replaced with available subsitiutes more or less original looking. Might this be the source of the uncertainty that seems to surround pictures of the "correct" bottle. - Tony Clarke 60 XK150 64 XKE OTS

My 59 150 has a round bottle in a squarish holder, a 63 Etype I had had a similar holder, but the metal was wrapped in rubber and the bottle was square, at least till it froze and broke and became a round pickle jar properly sized, (Atkins Polish Style Dills I think) - David Drenzek

Tony, Can I surmise from your comments that you are among the anointed few who have seen photos of "original" bottles, whether ex marmalade, polish pickles or even TRICO. If yes, were there any 140FHC images amongst the lot.

And to the curmudgeons...this is really part of the fun, even if it seems like a storm in a teacup. - Klaus Nielsen

Tony, John et al Thanks for spotting this one. Unfortunately it just adds to the confusion inasmuch as the photo shows a square bottle in an open 140. Until this image showed up, the uncertainty surrounded mostly the FHCs eg. whether only they were equipped either shape. Oh well, as JM noted, it helps to be over 50...... Regards Klaus Nielsen

Trico IS an original supplier. Did you 140 guys look in your parts catalogues? Is it in there? Looking in the 120 parts cat I see a lot of Trico numbers: Assembly - Trico 800010 - JAW.12-3 Glass - X.78369 Pump and cover - X.82540 Bracket and strap - X.78364-IE Strainer tube assy - X.76431-IM It even has the hose lengths. Pity there's no picture.

Any chance one or more of these numbers might still be on some of the parts you guys have been looking at? Anything to be found in Mk7 or 2.4 Mk1 literature? - Rob Reilly

My 140 DHC has a square bottle holder, and several years ago I purchased a square based bottle at Oldham and Crowther in Peterborough, UK. I was told that it was correct for my car , but it 'was' the only bottle they had. :) Unfortunately, I let it freeze, and now I'm running a quart 'Ball' jar. It's not original, but hey, it works! - Bob Hardison

Hi John -- MY Mk IX Spare Parts Catalog (Publication No J.31, Issued February 1962) calls out the windscreen washing unit -- p/404, Plate 71 (pic) p/405.

#s are:

C.12569, WINDSCREEN WASHER ASSEMBLY C.10127/1, JAR, PUMP AND BRACKET ASSEMBLY C.5473/4, JET ASSEMBLY, COMPLETE (X.78778-C) C.5473/7, CONTROL ASSEMBLY ON INSTRUMENT PANEL (900105) C.14715, CHECK VALVE ASSEMBLY AT REAR OF INLET MANIFOLD (770805) C.5473/6, TEE CONNECTION FOR HOSES (X.77689-1) HOSE CONNECTIONS C.5473/9, Hose, from connection on Pump to 'T' Junction (81846 x 12" long) C.5473/10, Hose, from top of Pump to Control (81846 x 48" long) C.5473/11, Hose, from Control to Manifold Check Valve (81846 x 42" long) C.5473/12, Hose, from 'T' Junction to right-hand Jet (F.15 x 52" long) C.5473/13, Hose, from 'T" Junction to left-hand Jet (F.15 x 26" long) BD.8106, BRACKET, ON SCUTTLE, MOUNTING JAR BRACKET

+ Individual #s for individual parts in assemblies.

The lid has:

TRICO MADE IN ENGLAND PATENTS

623557 624069 550065 658635 662241 665584 664155 664283 667655 658453 751898 754650 756380 757941 757251 757247 765033 + five more lines of #s, all VERY small -- V. hard to read; I "burned out" at this point.

I hope this is helpful, John -- also posting it to XK-Lovers in case someone else can use it. Take care my friend. - Larry Martz

George Badger - I take it you are saying that the "wannabes" often pretend to know lots about authenticity, but really don't. How can I disagree?! The fact that Jaguar never recorded so many of the detailed changes to XKs is really the only reason why the messages about things like washer bottles continue for so long, where so few cars evidently retain their original parts that it is hard to see a pattern. Incidentally, I can't think of too many worse (and thankless) jobs than concours judging authenticity.

Bob Oates - as to when or if I will have all the info collected: "if" - no; "when" - never. But you have to decide at some stage either to give up or go public with what you do have - as I think Dick White said to me months ago (and others have given similar thoughts): at some stage you have to stop cutting bait and go fishin'.

Rob Reilly - the other parts book I have access to don't help, e.g Mk I, Mk 7, 8, 9. The only picture is of the XK150 type. Noone seems to have reported parts nos. stamped on any of their washer bottle parts. Roger Payne says that the Mk I 1955 handbook has a picture of an XK150 type bottle.

I have now found a NOS washer set up I bought in the UK years ago. I can be definitive about this, to the extent that this part has the part number on it, in the form of a label taped to the glass, which says: "Jaguar Cars Ltd., C 5473 2 Jar. Quantity 1 Made in UK." The label is taped on with "Jaguar Cars Ltd Coventry" tape. This is the part no. for the 120 and 140 OTS and DHC. It is the round bottle with rounded shoulders and bulb type, with the lid and bulb above the lid. There is nothing stamped into the bottle at all excep ta kind of distorted letter C in the bottom (about 3/4 of the sides of a square really) and a slightly dimpled bottom to about 3/4 of the bottom of the bottle - ie. no Trico, no Made in England or anything else on the main bottle surface. The top apparatus has on the top of the bulb TRICO and TO CONTROL VALVE and also MADE IN ENGLAND (lettering is not all the same size, and it goes in a circle).

I would not be surprised if the label was made in the 1960s (it is printed, and more modern looking than other original parts labels I have seen). At least this is definitive evidence of what Jaguar at the relevant time thought was a part C 5473 2 and is consistent with the early photos others have referred to.

As to the FHC bottle, Roger Payne I think now believes this was a bit like the 150 with a flat top, but a longer bottle. So they would now be the 3 types: bulb top, round shoulders; flat top with long bottle; flat top with shorter bottle. I would think the second type would hold the most pickles. - John Elmgreen

Hi to all I have good information on a 140 DHC owned by the same owner since new. This car belongs to Jack Stamp and was built 31 March 1995. This is a left hand drive car. The bottle is mounted on the firewall and not on the sidewall. Two bolts secure the bracket and they pass through the shelf of the firewall ( horizontal sheet metal, not vertical). The position of bracket is to the centre of the car from the fuse box. The bottle is round, 8.25 inches high, 5 inches in diameter. The mouth of the bottle is 3.25 inches OD. I believe this is the arrangement for my own 140 OTS wich is earlier than Jack Stamps, but does have holes in the firewall which would accomadate this arrangement. If anyone has a bracket and bottle that meets above description up in attic, please let me know how much you want. - Neville Laing

I can confirm Larry Martz advice that Mark 9 SPM #J.31 DOES list the Washer Bottle:- C.10127/1 Jar,Pump and Bracket Assy. (800051) C.10127/2 . Jar only (Glass) C.10127/3 . Pump and Cover Assy C.10127/5 . Bracket C.10127/6 . Strainer Tube Assy

This of course is identical part numbers as for XK150 (as advised previously by John E.) and ALSO checking Dec.1956 edition of 2.4 (Mk.1) SPM, Nov.1958 3.4 (Mk.1) SPM and Jun.1959 2.4 SPM, the same numbers apply to all years Mark 1. The first edition (1955) Owners Handbook E/105/1 (and all later editions) for 2.4 (mk.1) has a very clear picture of the same flat lid washer, round bottle as XK150 SPM illustration, as does Mark 9 handbook.

I've now measured up several XK150 round bottles, and avoiding greater accuracy than quality of glass moulding allows, a nominal 7" high x 4-7/8" diameter is consistent, and so far they all seem to have TRICO etc. moulded into side of jar, and all with Flat type lid with vacuum unit suspended underneath lid.

XK120 # 661123 has I'm sure(?) its original 7-1/4" high round bottle of 4-7/8" diameter, necked down to a 3-1/8" diameter mouth to take lid with vacuum bulb mounted on top, with TRICO etc moulded on side and 2 B & Co K on the bottom (similar bottom marking as advised by Mike C. for his XK140)

I suspect vacuum unit on top of lid was a design upgraded to flat-lid type with vacuum unit underneath (more compact, and neater appearance and maybe less susceptible to damage etc), so suggest this happened during XK140 production. As previously mentioned I've noted a couple of contemporary magazine road-test photos of very early type XK140 ots with bulb on top washer bottles, and noted later XK140 ots with flat lid/ bulb underneath washer bottles, and as above 1955 Mark 1 also has flat lid unit.

John E. (Authenticity - washer bottles) of 3 May, didn't quite get my views right, in that I still don't have anything definitive on XK140 fhc, however I still think the XK140 part # differences relate to being a taller bottle at nominal 8" high (not 8-1/4" as I previously noted) and still 4-7/8" nominal diameter (not 4-3/4" as previously noted). John's description of his NOS C5473/2 sounds like a later glass moulding of the same part number bottle I described for 661123 above, (except for its lack of TRICO moulding), however the lack of TRICO and distorted C in bottom with lots of dimples sounds similar to my XK140's non-necked 8" high bottle.

MAYBE: - late XK120 7-1/4" x 4-7/8" diameter necked, bulb on top of lid washers continued into earliest XK140 ots/dhc, with 8" x 4-7/8" dia. non-necked flat lid bottles being introduced initially for just XK140 fhc (for space/ greater water volume reasons or whatever?) and soon after also adopted for XK140 ots/dhc for standardisation, and also shorter version for Mk.1, continuing on until latest XK140, XK150 and Mark 9 adopted the same now standard across the model range shorter flat top version. (I'm not sure where Mike C's LARGE 6" dia x 9-1/4" bottle fits in, despite familiar lettering underneath) I also have, origin unknown, a TRICO bottle, 8" high x 4-7/8" dia necked to 3-1/8" mouth with bulb on top - this was a swap meet find. - Roger Payne

I have two bottle holders and one bottle. The bottle holders are the same. I also had a 2nd bottle from a parts car, which was broken in the bottom corner. Holder mounts to the left hand side engine shield panel below the body. Mounting is with three small screws or bolts, near the brake fluid resovoir.

Bottle is 3-3/4" width and depth, making it different from the other XK bottles. Height to the neck is 6-1/4, total height is 7-1/2. Cap size is 3-1/4.

Suction device has a brass bell (painted black) 1-3/4 across the top and bottom, and 2-3/8 inch high. Under the bell is a 3/4" standoff where the outlet hose attaches.

The "cage" is a thin strip of metal 4-1/4 width and depth, and a 2" wide strip that goes down the front across the bottom and up the back. Two holes near the top, and a 1-1/4 spherical indentation in the bottom, raised 1/2".

I've seen about 5 bottles in various 140FHCs that fit this description, and feel that these dimensions are correct. Roadsters and dropheads are different, and I believe they may be compatible with the '50s sedans. I'm almost positive that 140 FHC bottles are different than any other Jab bottle. I'm hoping someone can cross reference this bottle to another car though. Maybe an Armstrong-Siddley? Or a Bristol? Who knows? Chris Jerbic

To all, I was at a swap meet yesterday and spotted a washer bottle unit that had the same TRICO vacuum assembly as the one on my '54 120. The "pickle jar" however was different. The source vehicle was a 1949 Chevy. Maybe we're looking in all the wrong places for our Jag. parts. - David Sales

I pulled out my round -140 OTS washer bottle. It's 6" dia by 9-1/4" high to top of neck. The bottom of the jar has a 3/4" dia raised ring in the center with a "4" superimposed over the ring on one side. At about 2" diameter, there are some light raised letters covering a 90 deg arc. As best I can make it out the letters are "B_ _ & _ Co LD" (the "D" is in superscript). The jar mouth is 4" and fits the standard Trico flat screw top with control valve.

Mike Carpenter 812797

I think Chris Jerbic has given us the right answer (I have also checked with another local enthusiast) on the 140 FHC washer bottles. Essentially, they are (a) small (b) square, and (c) with a bulb on top, unlike all other XK bottles. Any other observations re all XK bottles will be gratefully received esp with measurements.

Can anyone comment further re the mounting of the brackets for the bottles - on the scuttle, or on the side? The parts book indicates that the OTS and DHC were scuttle mounted (like the 120) while the FHC indicates a simpler mounting without a separate bracket - just what they call the bracket and strap assembly.

Also, there are observations of 140s with blanking things fitted to where the jets would be, and with holes drilled for where the bottles would go, even when they were apparently not fitted: i.e all cars had the holes whether or not they had the bottles. Any comments here? They were of course meant to have been fitted to SE models (? only) i.e. with chassis numbers prefixed as "S". - John Elmgreen.

I currently have a 140FHC at our shop. It had been sitting untouched for almost 20 years. Prior to that time, it was on the road and serviced by my Dad and Grandfather. Although the bottle is not on the car now, my Dad recalls the car well and remembers the original one to be mounted on the side..which is where a bag is mounted now. I will have to take another look to see if any bracketing remains or not. - Hal Rogers

John,...for the tally: S817518 has a scuttle mounted (off-side) washer bottler holder. - James Warren

added 1/10/99...

Could some one please tell me what to look for in a wind sheild washer bottle for a 140 fixed head. I hear that they are different then others. I have the bracket on the inner fender and that is all. I have a line on one but don't know what I am looking at. Also What is the going price for a complete set in us $ . Thank you. First day of snow in southern VT today. - Malcom McNair

It's my understanding that the 120 and 140 washer bottle assemblies are largely the same but the 150 washer bottle assemblies are somewhat different. The 140 assembly has the fluid delivery mechanism protrude above the lid that screws onto the washer jar. The workings of the 150 assembly are contained primarily below the lid. I hope this sketchy description helps somewhat. I have seen the 140 units for sale in the US for $250 to $300. - Rich Williams

Rich, Carerful..washer bottles assemblies for 140 OTS and DHCs are fairly easy to find and not overlly expensive. In contrast, it took 3 years to locate a good assembly for my 140 FHC. They are rare and very expensive when you do find one. Porters new book contains a picture, albeit very small of all three types. - Regards, Klaus Nielsen

Hi, You are looking for the rarest ( read expensive) of the bunch. Send your snail mail address or call (770 395 6707) and I will send you a photo of a complete set up. - Regards, Klaus Nielsen 140FHC

Does the washer bottle on a 140 have an electric pump or is it a vacuum run device? Is the device on the inside of the top or on the out side of the top? Is there a book that I don't own that will show this type of thing on 140s ? I just purchased a bottle over the internet and it does not fit the rack that is in the car.What was sent as a 140 coupe was a round glass with a black screw on top. The vacuum device is on the inside . Is this wrong or is my bracket not right? Thanks for any help. - Malcolm McNair 56 140 fhc

Malcolm; I believe what you described is for a 150. I have heard that the bottle for the 140 FHC are very difficult to come by, if you need a description or a photo of the 140 fhc bottle drop Klaus a note at (nat1kwn@is.ups.com) he acquired one several months ago as I recall. - Skip Smith

Malcolm, You need Phil Porter's "Original Jaguar XK", 1998 edition, widely available. 140 FHC washer bottle is a litlle square one, sounds as if you have the wrong one. - Regards, John Elmgreen

Malcom, Skip is correct. I found a complete 140FHC washer bottle set up a few months ago. It is quite different from the other two, OTS and DHC . If I can answer any questionss...just give me a call 770 395 6707 - Regards, Klaus Nielsen

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